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	<title>Comments on: Logical Fallacies 101: The Appeal to Authority</title>
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		<title>By: Glob</title>
		<link>http://www.gppcomic.com/2009/05/15/logical-fallacies-101-the-appeal-to-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-3028</link>
		<dc:creator>Glob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Chu just use a red hering?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Chu just use a red hering?</p>
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		<title>By: Dauric</title>
		<link>http://www.gppcomic.com/2009/05/15/logical-fallacies-101-the-appeal-to-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-376</link>
		<dc:creator>Dauric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fallacy of appealing to authority is often a fallacy of appealing to fallacious authority. 

There&#039;s people who -know stuff- and should be listened to. Stephen Hawking and astrophysics. General Shinzeki and strategic and tactical operation needs in Iraq (he openly contradicted Rummy&#039;s estimates). 

There&#039;s the obviously false authorities (usually &#039;pop&#039; stars&#039;) that have no remote connection to whatever it is that they&#039;re talking about, and yet someone&#039;s still paying them to yap on about it.

There&#039;s extended false authorities, like Mr. Bush thinking he had kingly duties to authorize anything he wanted in a democracy of checks and balances (though apparently those checks and balances were on vacation...)

Then there&#039;s stealth fakers, typified by the &quot;Studies&quot; made by corporate or other &#039;lobbying&#039; groups that make use of the oddities in the methods statistics to skew numbers in their favor, and thus &quot;Prove&quot; a point through &quot;Science&quot; that is in fact neither proven nor scientific, just spun and marketed.

The tricky bit is knowing which one you&#039;re dealing with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fallacy of appealing to authority is often a fallacy of appealing to fallacious authority. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s people who -know stuff- and should be listened to. Stephen Hawking and astrophysics. General Shinzeki and strategic and tactical operation needs in Iraq (he openly contradicted Rummy&#8217;s estimates). </p>
<p>There&#8217;s the obviously false authorities (usually &#8216;pop&#8217; stars&#8217;) that have no remote connection to whatever it is that they&#8217;re talking about, and yet someone&#8217;s still paying them to yap on about it.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s extended false authorities, like Mr. Bush thinking he had kingly duties to authorize anything he wanted in a democracy of checks and balances (though apparently those checks and balances were on vacation&#8230;)</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s stealth fakers, typified by the &#8220;Studies&#8221; made by corporate or other &#8216;lobbying&#8217; groups that make use of the oddities in the methods statistics to skew numbers in their favor, and thus &#8220;Prove&#8221; a point through &#8220;Science&#8221; that is in fact neither proven nor scientific, just spun and marketed.</p>
<p>The tricky bit is knowing which one you&#8217;re dealing with.</p>
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		<title>By: Slappy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 22:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it depends upon the nature of the debate. Citing Stephen Hawkings in a debate on the science of the cosmos is an appropriate use of citing an authority. However, citing Stephen Hawkings in a debate on, say, 80s pop stars is not.

Citing religious figures often comes down to a &quot;they&#039;re right because they&#039;re right&quot; discussion... which proves nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it depends upon the nature of the debate. Citing Stephen Hawkings in a debate on the science of the cosmos is an appropriate use of citing an authority. However, citing Stephen Hawkings in a debate on, say, 80s pop stars is not.</p>
<p>Citing religious figures often comes down to a &#8220;they&#8217;re right because they&#8217;re right&#8221; discussion&#8230; which proves nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 19:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure that appealing to authority or appealing to someone with more knowledge or expertise or authority in an area is really a fallacy. I mean I understand how saying “God told me to…” or “God said its wrong if…” or “The President said its ok if…” isn’t a valid reason for doing something but I don’t think that saying “Well according to Bart Ehrman…” or “according to Richard Dawkins…” is a bad tactic to take in a debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure that appealing to authority or appealing to someone with more knowledge or expertise or authority in an area is really a fallacy. I mean I understand how saying “God told me to…” or “God said its wrong if…” or “The President said its ok if…” isn’t a valid reason for doing something but I don’t think that saying “Well according to Bart Ehrman…” or “according to Richard Dawkins…” is a bad tactic to take in a debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Xoynx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xoynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 10:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that he deserves it, but there are two N&#039;s in Glenn Beck.

BTW, yours has immediately become my favorite webcomic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that he deserves it, but there are two N&#8217;s in Glenn Beck.</p>
<p>BTW, yours has immediately become my favorite webcomic.</p>
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